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Introduction
The hydrogen economy is a futuristic utopia of zero emission hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, greenhouse gas-free power generation and energy independence to many people in the general public. Its development is a technical feat that will measure-up near to the development of the Apollo space program that launched the first U.S. astronaut into space in response to the Soviet threat during the Cold war and as significant as the industrial revolution that gave birth to the industrial tycoons of steel and oil. There are many interested parties who intend to benefit in such a campaign. Environmentalists have historically been supportive of such a program that phases out the more environmentally unfriendly petroleum based economy. U.S. automakers stand to benefit from the sales of hydrogen vehicles by developing a quick grip on the new and growing market.
Opportunity exists even within the current energy industry. In order to produce hydrogen, at least initially, the use of fossil fuels will still need to be used by direct consumption to produce electricity and ultimately hydrogen or by chemical reformation to harvest hydrogen. The United States on the whole will benefit from such a switch thereby relieving ourselves from the dependence upon foreign oil and OPEC.
Regardless of the feasibility of such an initiative, the Bush administration can only benefit from its endorsement for in fact this initiative is the perfect political weapon in winning special interest group support when everyone stands to gain from the hydrogen based economy. With little public debate, such policy as the Bush “Roadmap to the Hydrogen Economy” and 1.2 billion dollar funding as suggested in the 2002 State of the Union address glides through congress and is never heard from again until long past the Bush years and in the hands of a current administration.
Unfortunately, our policy makers and most of the general public understand very little of the prophetic hydrogen economy; its unprecedented technical challenges or its real benefits. This paper will summarize the technical challenges and benefits associated with the hydrogen economy as well as identify its evolution into our current political situation.
Hydrogen Technology
The hydrogen economy is no new subject. As a matter of fact it was first envisioned by the French writer Jules Vernes in his book, “L’Ile Mysterieuse,” in 1875 where he spoke of water being broken into hydrogen and oxygen to supply endless electricity and heat [8]. Also, in a report by the Club of Rome in 1976, it was considered that, “at the eve of the 21st century, we should consider the juxtaposition of two networks of equal importance: electricity and hydrogen which is cheap and available in huge quantities from nuclear or solar energy [8].”
Hydrogen is the most abundant element on the earth, yet it does not exist in nature as the diatomic hydrogen gas that everyone wants to burn/oxidize in the presence of oxygen or air to form water as the only byproduct. In fact, that is just how you will find most hydrogen in nature; the already oxidized form as water (hydrogen oxide). As any earth science person or engineer that has studied thermodynamics will tell you, according to the second law of thermodynamics, everything in the universe is heading towards increasing entropy. Entropy is defined as the degree of disorder. The greater the entropy of a system, the greater the degree of disorder. It is this principle that we draw all of our energy from the existing fossil fuels by taking a nice orderly molecule like a hydrocarbon and blowing it to smithereens to make gases of carbon dioxide and water. This huge change in entropy to the positive or greater disorder is the only reason we are able to light our homes and power our cars. Hydrogen is not a fuel and can only be created at the expense of other fuels. The only purpose of hydrogen is a means to store energy in a form that we can handle much like our gasoline based infrastructure.
Hydrogen Production
Initially, hydrogen will be produced by our existing base of fossil fuels and nuclear. Renewable energy such as wind, solar, hydro, and geothermal currently comprises a mere 1% of our energy supply. Hydrogen that is produced today is a product of thermal decomposition of natural gas to carbon dioxide and hydrogen gas. As much as 90% of the hydrogen produced today originates from natural gas. The other production capacity is by electrolysis of water by electricity (which comes from coal, gas or nuclear) and by the thermal decomposition of coal. Unfortunately, coal is as much as 85% carbon content and requires other processing to produce methyl alcohol or carbon dioxide which must be sequestered.
Many critics argue that there is little benefit to adding the extra step of hydrogen production which has its inherent efficiency losses to produce when you could just produce electricity or burn the fuels directly in the case of the internal combustion engine. Initially this is a questionable conversion, yet the possibility of producing increasing amounts of hydrogen at the expense of renewable sources is favorable. In several decades it may be possible to increase the proportion of renewable sources by the development of better technologies. More noteworthy is the fact that the major downfall of renewable energy sources is the lack of predictability and reliability of the source. Electricity that is generated if not immediately used is wasted. Storage batteries are capable of storing some electricity but are grossly limited in capacity and high cost. However, if the electricity that is generated were converted to hydrogen the storage capacity limited only by how big a hydrogen tank you build and has no shelf-life. Hydrogen could be harvested and stockpiled during the unpredictable wind and solar sources.
Hydrogen Infrastructure
Other difficulties associated with a hydrogen based economy exist than the source of hydrogen production. Hydrogen storage as it relates to transportation and distribution is not easily attained. Hydrogen is the lightest gas that exists besides helium and requires more compression in order to pack enough mass of hydrogen gas into a unit of volume. Thus, hydrogen fuel tanks on an automobile would need to be at extremely high pressure in order to have enough fuel to last as long as a typical tank of gasoline; 700 atmospheres or 10,000psi to be exact. Typical pressures of natural gas vehicle storage tanks are in the range of 250 atmospheres or 4,000psi. Pressures in this range require very heavy walled steel tanks to be safe where the mass of hydrogen only accounts several percent of the total weight of the tank, not to mention the expense of energy in order to drive compressors for achieving such high pressure. To liquefy hydrogen for distribution would require very low temperatures around -253°C, absolute zero is -273°C, and requires the input of massive amounts of energy to run refrigeration equipment.
The current petroleum based economy has a massive existing infrastructure that would need to be phased out of existence and the introduction of entirely new refueling stations; all costs unsubsidized by the government that ultimately are absorbed by the consumer.
One other major concern over the storage of hydrogen is that it is quite explosive and in the hands of the consumer each hydrogen fuel tank can lead to disaster either at the refueling station or in the event of an accident. These challenges are only a sample of the enormous tasks in the development of such a revolutionary system.
Conclusions
Properly implemented, the hydrogen economy stands to revolutionize the world as we know it. The production of hydrogen will and its ultimate usage in fuel cell vehicles will liberate the U.S. economy as well as other industrialized nations from the grips of foreign oil and OPEC. Yet, we must question how seriously our government supports such an undertaking. In the 2002 State of the Union address George W. Bush committed $1.2 billion to the development of hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Unfortunately, this figure doled out over five years might only pay the electric bill for a R&D operation. The scale of such a development would easily require a price tag of $1 trillion dollars.
The “National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap” much like the “Roadmap to Peace” may be more hot air than a legitimate effort at changing our national energy policy. The hydrogen smokescreen might be a diversion to what this administration truly intends to do about securing our future in energy.
Bibliography
United States Dept. of Energy, “National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap,” National Hydrogen Energy Roadmap Workshop, Washington, D.C. April 2-3, 2003.
United States Dept. of Energy, “Fuel Cell Report to Congress,” United States Dept. of Energy, ESECS EE-1973, February 2003.
D. Morris, “A Hydrogen Economy is a Bad Idea,” AlterNet, February 2003.
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For information on purchasing reprints of this article, contact Tim Tobeck ttobeck@energycentral.com. Copyright 2010 CyberTech, Inc.
Energy policy should not just look at switching to a new fuel as the answer to shortfalls in oil and increasing greenhouse gas production. In the interim policy can focus on greatly improving the efficiency we use fuel, particularly in transport uses.
Policy can include limiting fuel inefficient vehicles either by regulation and/or taxation policy to encourage vehicle owners to select low fuel consumption vehicles. The benefits of such policy include extending the life of current reserves, reducing emissions and setting the scene for hydrogen fuelled vehicles which are likely to be low power (kW) rating in an effort to reduce the hydrogen quantity to be stored on board and extend the distance travelled prior to refuelling.
Such policy initiatives may also assist the adoption of alternative energy storage such as batteries if consumers expectations with regard to vehicle power and vehicle bulk can be modified.
Rodney Adams 2.16.04
The "hydrogen economy" is an interesting diversion. The promotional efforts being made by major oil companies to tout their participation in this futuristic enterprise are especially intriguing.
Scratching deep beneath the surface of the hype, one can find that oil companies have a very pressing problem that can be solved by increased production of hydrogen. Oil refineries that produce useful transportation fuels from low quality hydrocarbons use a process known as hydrocracking to upgrade the high carbon, heavy residue oil to something closely resembling gasoline or diesel fuel.
This process is becoming even more important as regulations demanding lower sulfur content and other improvements in the quality of motor fuels get phased in.
The quantity of hydrogen consumed by hydrocracking is growing quite rapidly and is projected by some US government sponsored studies to range into the billions of standard cubic feet per day.
A massive hydrogen production capacity is going to be needed to supply this material to the oil refineries. Improvements to the production processes that may come from tax payer subsidized research will directly benefit some of the richest and most powerful companies in the world.
It seems to me that companies reporting quarterly PROFITS in the billions of dollars should fund their own research without asking the public to do it for them.
Richard Wilburn 2.16.04
Rodney - That is a very interesting point that I had never considered, the enormous usage of hydrogen in gasoline production. It would be interesting to see how much of this hydrogen usage could be diverted from producing gasoline into a more straightforward usage in fuel cell vehicles. Still, the problem exists of having the hydrogen available from natrual gas sources or electrolysis (which the power ultimately would come from coal or nuclear). And yes I agree with you that these companies should be doing their own research and develop. Too bad it doesn't fit into the bottom line.
Rodney Adams 2.16.04
Richard: Actually the research on hydrogen will be done whether or not the government subsidizes it. The oil companies have sufficient economic motivation to produce the hydrogen needed to convert what would otherwise be a waste product into usable fuel.
However, like any self respecting big business, oil companies will gladly accept corporate welfare if it is offered. Their political contributions often provide some of their highest return on capital. They get plenty back from the taxpayers in return for supporting political leaders on both sides of the aisle.
My prediction is that after a decade or so of taxpayer subsidized research into improved methods of hydrogen production we will be told that the best way to store and transport the material is to combine it with carbon to make it an energy dense liquid that can be distributed using the existing infrastructure. IOW the hydrogen will be used to upgrade heavy oils and oil from tar sands just like it has been for several decades.
paul avery 2.17.04
There is a fundamental paradigm associated with a "Hydrogen Economy" that most people are not aware of, ignore or actively resist. And that is the paradigm of decentralization. What is the structure of the energy system today? And why? The structure is one of centralization where energy is produced, transported/distributed then consumed. This structure is in place because of the nature of the energy source itself: Fossil fuels. They are difficult to find, difficult to extract, difficult to refine and require transportation to the end consumer. Difficult==Costly. So, let's think about Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most abundant "material" in the universe, although solitarily unstable and mostly bound up in other molecules. Hydrogen can easily be extracted from water and slightly less easily from any type of biomass. Hydrogen can be cultivated from farms of bacteria, as well as methods that haven't been yet dreamed of. So, Hydrogen is not centrally located==not difficult to find. It's not particularly difficult to extract. Storage? The author is correct in his description of Hydrogen storage - assuming one is storing pure Hydrogen. But many methods and materials have already been developed that store Hydrogen atoms within a large matrix of specialized material, making the hydrogen/matrix solution no more difficult to store or transport than milk, or apple juice. BUT, why are we talking about transporting Hydrogen at all? I can make Hydrogen in my back yard with a water source and an electrolyzer. Then I can pipe it to an on-site fuel cell for conversion into electricity. The Hydrogen Economy is one based on a decentralization paradigm due to the nature of the energy source, which is fundamentally different than that of fossil fuels. The trick in the new energy economy will not be in storage and distribution, but in fundamentally re- thinking the energy system as a distributed, intelligent, adaptive complex system. And the resistence will not come from technology gaps, but from those systems that stand to lose - systems like TransCos, GenCos, Oil, Coal, Nuclear special interests etc. And the resistence will win so long as we allow the "leadership" of this country to keep us in the dark ages.
paul avery 2.17.04
There is a fundamental paradigm associated with a "Hydrogen Economy" that most people are not aware of, ignore or actively resist. And that is the paradigm of decentralization. What is the structure of the energy system today? And why? The structure is one of centralization where energy is produced, transported/distributed then consumed. This structure is in place because of the nature of the energy source itself: Fossil fuels. They are difficult to find, difficult to extract, difficult to refine and require transportation to the end consumer. Difficult==Costly. So, let's think about Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most abundant "material" in the universe, although solitarily unstable and mostly bound up in other molecules. Hydrogen can easily be extracted from water and slightly less easily from any type of biomass. Hydrogen can be cultivated from farms of bacteria, as well as methods that haven't been yet dreamed of. So, Hydrogen is not centrally located==not difficult to find. It's not particularly difficult to extract. Storage? The author is correct in his description of Hydrogen storage - assuming one is storing pure Hydrogen. But many methods and materials have already been developed that store Hydrogen atoms within a large matrix of specialized material, making the hydrogen/matrix solution no more difficult to store or transport than milk, or apple juice. BUT, why are we talking about transporting Hydrogen at all? I can make Hydrogen in my back yard with a water source and an electrolyzer. Then I can pipe it to an on-site fuel cell for conversion into electricity. The Hydrogen Economy is one based on a decentralization paradigm due to the nature of the energy source, which is fundamentally different than that of fossil fuels. The trick in the new energy economy will not be in storage and distribution, but in fundamentally re- thinking the energy system as a distributed, intelligent, adaptive complex system. And the resistence will not come from technology gaps, but from those systems that stand to lose - systems like TransCos, GenCos, Oil, Coal, Nuclear special interests etc. And the resistence will win so long as we allow the "leadership" of this country to keep us in the dark ages.
paul avery 2.17.04
There is a fundamental paradigm associated with a "Hydrogen Economy" that most people are not aware of, ignore or actively resist. And that is the paradigm of decentralization. What is the structure of the energy system today? And why? The structure is one of centralization where energy is produced, transported/distributed then consumed. This structure is in place because of the nature of the energy source itself: Fossil fuels. They are difficult to find, difficult to extract, difficult to refine and require transportation to the end consumer. Difficult==Costly. So, let's think about Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most abundant "material" in the universe, although solitarily unstable and mostly bound up in other molecules. Hydrogen can easily be extracted from water and slightly less easily from any type of biomass. Hydrogen can be cultivated from farms of bacteria, as well as methods that haven't been yet dreamed of. So, Hydrogen is not centrally located==not difficult to find. It's not particularly difficult to extract. Storage? The author is correct in his description of Hydrogen storage - assuming one is storing pure Hydrogen. But many methods and materials have already been developed that store Hydrogen atoms within a large matrix of specialized material, making the hydrogen/matrix solution no more difficult to store or transport than milk, or apple juice. BUT, why are we talking about transporting Hydrogen at all? I can make Hydrogen in my back yard with a water source and an electrolyzer. Then I can pipe it to an on-site fuel cell for conversion into electricity. The Hydrogen Economy is one based on a decentralization paradigm due to the nature of the energy source, which is fundamentally different than that of fossil fuels. The trick in the new energy economy will not be in storage and distribution, but in fundamentally re- thinking the energy system as a distributed, intelligent, adaptive complex system. And the resistence will not come from technology gaps, but from those systems that stand to lose - systems like TransCos, GenCos, Oil, Coal, Nuclear special interests etc. And the resistence will win so long as we allow the "leadership" of this country to keep us in the dark ages.
paul avery 2.17.04
There is a fundamental paradigm associated with a "Hydrogen Economy" that most people are not aware of, ignore or actively resist. And that is the paradigm of decentralization. What is the structure of the energy system today? And why? The structure is one of centralization where energy is produced, transported/distributed then consumed. This structure is in place because of the nature of the energy source itself: Fossil fuels. They are difficult to find, difficult to extract, difficult to refine and require transportation to the end consumer. Difficult==Costly. So, let's think about Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the most abundant "material" in the universe, although solitarily unstable and mostly bound up in other molecules. Hydrogen can easily be extracted from water and slightly less easily from any type of biomass. Hydrogen can be cultivated from farms of bacteria, as well as methods that haven't been yet dreamed of. So, Hydrogen is not centrally located==not difficult to find. It's not particularly difficult to extract. Storage? The author is correct in his description of Hydrogen storage - assuming one is storing pure Hydrogen. But many methods and materials have already been developed that store Hydrogen atoms within a large matrix of specialized material, making the hydrogen/matrix solution no more difficult to store or transport than milk, or apple juice. BUT, why are we talking about transporting Hydrogen at all? I can make Hydrogen in my back yard with a water source and an electrolyzer. Then I can pipe it to an on-site fuel cell for conversion into electricity. The Hydrogen Economy is one based on a decentralization paradigm due to the nature of the energy source, which is fundamentally different than that of fossil fuels. The trick in the new energy economy will not be in storage and distribution, but in fundamentally re- thinking the energy system as a distributed, intelligent, adaptive complex system. And the resistence will not come from technology gaps, but from those systems that stand to lose - systems like TransCos, GenCos, Oil, Coal, Nuclear special interests etc. And the resistence will win so long as we allow the "leadership" of this country to keep us in the dark ages.
Len Gould 2.17.04
Paul: You've missed one of the most significant recent developments in H2 production. see http://www.mpr.com/pubs/profile/pf9_hydrogen.html for "figure"
The Sulfur-Iodine Cycle uses thermochemical processes to obtain hydrogen and oxygen from water. The figure right depicts the cycle. In the initial stage, water reacts with iodine and sulfur dioxide to form intermediate products. The intermediate products break down to constituents upon heating, releasing hydrogen and oxygen. The iodine and sulfur are recycled in the system.
This cycle, powered by a HTGR (High Temperature Gas Reactor), may one day supply hydrogen efficiently, without any dependence on fossil fuels. As shown, the cycle uses only energy (as heat) and water as inputs. The only products are hydrogen and oxygen and some reject heat. With a predicted efficiency of ~50 percent, the cycle is more attractive than electrolysis according to research by the Japan Atomic Energy Research Institute (JAERI). JAERI has successfully conducted continuous production experiments using S-I technology. Scale up will require significant additional research and development in the following areas.
* Large scale components will have to be constructed of materials able to resist the highly corrosive and high temperature environments encountered with the S-I process. * Solution concentrations are critical to the success of the cycle, and these parameters currently are difficult to control in large scale. * Process improvements using membrane technology for the HI decomposition step need to be refined.
This process or something similar is likely to become the primary fuel source for all uses. And with rational regulations could likely compete evenly with hydrocarbon fuel production right now.
Len Gould 2.17.04
This also interesting, from "Use of the Modular Helium Reactor for Hydrogen Production" article at http://www.world-nuclear.org/sym/2003/schultz.htm
"In the USA, this hydrogen industry produces 11 million tonnes of hydrogen a year with a thermal energy equivalent of 48 GWt. In so doing, it consumes 5% of the US natural gas usage and releases 74 million tonnes of CO2."
Len Gould 2.17.04
Now to me it should make sense to research substituting a solar-thermal boiler as developed (and uneconomical) for direct electrical generation as the heat source. With a reactor backup?
Michael Warwick 2.17.04
In many ways current hydorgen proposals seem like a solution in search a problem. If you step back, the real problem the "hydrogen economy" targets is an inefficient personal mobility system in the US (and other largely rural and developing nations). There are many solutions to that problem that don't involve hydrogen, can be implemented much sooner with less infrastructure and new investment, and so on. The problem with this "solution" is that is doesn't serve the politcal agendas of many hydrogen advocates.
James Hopf 2.17.04
Paul:
Your logic falls apart when you consider that it takes more than one unit of energy (from some other source) to produce one unit of energy in hydrogen. Hydrogen is not an energy source, but merely an energy carrier, and it requires a substantial sacrafice (in efficiency) even to convert the other energy source into hydrogen energy.
You say that finding and separating out the hydrogen at a local site is "easy and cheap" whereas delivering traditional energy sources (e.g. fossil fuels) to that site is "difficult and expensive". This is clearly not true given that you'd have to deliver 2 or 3 units of fossil energy to produce one unit of hydrogen energy at your location. And the (above) fossil fuel approach is the LEAST expensive way to make H2. At present, other (renewable) energy sources are far more expensive than are fossil fuels (whether used directly, or to make hydrogen). Creating H2 locally from biomass would be much more expensive, and the land use requirements would be enormous.
You may have a point about using local electrolysis. It could very well be true that it is cheaper and more efficient to ship the energy in the form of electricity, over power lines, than it is to ship the energy in the form of hydrogen, through a pipeline system. This is especially true given that the power grid already exists, whereas the hydrogen distribution infrastructure would have to be built, at great expense. Also, if hydrogen is mainly produced via natural gas reformation (likely to be the case in the short-to-mid term), it may be more efficient to use the existing natural gas distribution infrastructure, and perform the gas reformation near the point of demand, instead of reforming all the H2 at centralized facilities, and shipping the H2 over some new distribution system. For example, if we were to use H2 fuel cell powered cars, I would envision the first adopted approach being reforming natural gas into H2 at the service stations.
Indeed, decentralization (and the hatred of large centralized utilities and other institutions) has an almost religious appeal for a fraction of the population. These are precisely the influences that should NOT be allowed to influence public policy, however, especially given that people who feel strongly about such issues already have the right to go with a personal system (whatever the cost may be). Decentralization has its merits, but it needs to be evaluated rationally, based upon those merits (and possible drawbacks).
Using grid power to locally produce (via electrolysis) hydrogen wouldn't even really count as a distributed energy source, since the power is still being generated at a large centralized plant, and the power grid is being used to distribute the power. And why would anyone use grid power to generate hydrogen, and then use the hydrogen to generate electricity again (winding up with only ~35% of the power they started with)? Electrolysis of hydrogen only makes sense as a source of H2 for vehicles. We will NEVER use hydrogen as a way to store electricity, as it is far more expensive than several other storage approaches. The best approach, of course, would be to save our limited gas supplies for use in inexpensive peaking plants (as opposed to using it for baseload generation...).
Using natural gas locally to create hydrogen, to power a car or stationary fuel cell, better qualifies as "distributed generation" as many of the normal benefits of distributed power apply. These include reduction in reliance on the grid (and the associated power losses) and the potential to make use of most of the waste heat given off by the reforming process. Any other system that uses natural gas locally (such as a stationary fuel cell directly powered by gas, or a microturbine, etc..) would be equally eligible for the "distributed generation" label.
After the gas runs out, the only real distributed energy source would be solar PV, but that power would be used directly, and not to make H2, since it is generally produced at the time of peak demand. Wind may be used to generate H2, especially given that this largely alleviates its intermittantcy problem. Wind, however, is not really "distributed", as it is usually generated in large, centralized farms that are owned by utilities, etc... Thus, after gas is gone, I do not see H2 being generated in a distributed fashion. The only exception to this prediction is that, if we find H2 distribution from centralized sites to be a nightmare, we may use local electrolysis to generate H2 for use in vehicles (but for vehicles ONLY). Even this, however, is less likely than us just compromising and going with synthetically created natural gas or methanol to power our cars (where a carbon source is combined with water, using an external source of heat, to create hydrocarbons).
Graham Cowan 2.28.04
Wilburn's remarks under "Hydrogen Infrastructure" are inaccurate in ways that favour hydrogen. A tank able to hold 10,000 psi of hydrogen would not "have enough fuel to last as long as a typical tank of gasoline" unless its internal volume were nine times that of the gasoline tank.
If the wall tension counteracting the gas pressure were borne by steel, the mass fraction of hydrogen would not be "several percent of the total weight of the tank", it would be substantially less than one percent. Researchers have made such tanks out of carbon filament composite, and in that case the H2 mass fraction can indeed be several percent, but costs so far have stayed in the tens of thousands of dollars per tank. Researchers are crying out for public funding with which to attempt to reduce this. If I have any opinion as to the merits of that request, it is not included in this posting.
Liquid hydrogen tankage is less than half as bulky as 10-kpsi gaseous, and need contain only a few tens of psi. If the current hydrogen enthusiasm were not ... of a certain nature, I don't think high-pressure ambient-temperature containment would be being pursued.
--- Graham Cowan http://tinyurl.com/ymps -- how motoring gains nuclear cachet
Len Gould 2.29.04
Graham: 1) You've missed eg. HERA Hydrogen, now selling hydride storage tanks suitable for eg. forklifts etc. http://www.herahydrogen.com/en/doc/HERA-MH-systems.PDF (BTW, privately financed Cdn company). 10 cuM in a flat 20" x 32" x 5.5" package. 2) Carbon filament composite reinforced aluminum tanks are certainly well out of research, see Dynatec in Calgary, or General Dynamics for that matter. Maybe 10,000 psi still awaits approval, but Dynatec only refers to their new 12,500 psi series as in development.
Y'know, we don't need anyone to point out (repeatedly, at every turn, ad ...) the issues which need to be resolved to get off fossil. We all know that eventually, be it 30 years or 300 years, autos WILL stop burning fossil fuels. Why not do the planning in advance?
Graham Cowan 2.29.04
Those mixed units will not avail you. It shall not pass ...
20" by 32" by 5.5" is 57.7 litres. Packing 10 STP m^3 of hydrogen in there is a 170-fold volume reduction. Liquid hydrogen tanks, *including* their thick walls, reduce volume 700-fold. Metal hydride is safer, maybe safe enough that you plan to spend time on the factory floor next to hydride-powered forklifts, but much heavier and, as your data show, less compact.
It seems to me I'm doing some of the advance planning you mention, and we do in fact need people to point out the various places where, when genuine interest in hydrogen power goes one way, the recent and soon-to-be-forgotten hydrogen enthusiasm goes the other-- as in this instance, liquid hydrogen versus various bulkier, heavier, more complex methods. I don't believe liquid hydrogen is the answer, but if it isn't, how much less must they be.
--- Graham Cowan http://tinyurl.com/2cmge -- how motoring gains nuclear cachet
Len Gould 3.1.04
Graham: Sorry, I appologize. I just read your website on boron fuel. Excellent work, definitely carries many good ideas well presented.