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Are Smart Grids a Smart Investment?
7.8.09   Jerry Jackson, President, Jackson Associates

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    This article is a short excerpt from Jackson Associates' white paper, "Are Smart Grids a Smart Investment?"

    Analysis of comprehensive smart grid technology applications at 200 of the largest U.S. utilities shows potential smart grid savings of 115,145 Megawatts (MW) with avoided costs of more than $120 billion and net savings after smart grid costs of $48 billion. This study is the first to apply individual utility customer end-use hourly electric loads to evaluate smart grid costs and benefits. Data for more than 800,000 residential and commercial utility customers in the 200 largest U.S. utilities were applied in the study. These utilities represent slightly over 70 percent of all residential and commercial electricity use. (The commercial sector is defined to include commercial, institutional and government utility customers.)

    Studies to date, including a recent analysis released by FERC, rely on assumptions about elasticities and electricity pricing to estimate changes in total utility hourly loads or broad customer class aggregate hourly loads.

    Instead of applying the elasticity/aggregate load approach of previous studies, this study applies load control and pricing program impacts directly to individual customer end-use loads such as air conditioning, water heating and so on to determine utility-level impacts.

    Commercial customers provide about one-quarter of the potential avoided cost savings, or $31.7 billion. Individual utility avoided cost savings range from $49 million to more than $5.5 billion. Subtracting costs of a comprehensive smart grid deployment provide net savings that range from negative savings to $3.2 billion. Benefits of comprehensive smart grid systems vary widely across utilities even within individual states and depend on a complicated mix of factors including dwelling unit size, age, electric appliance holdings, demographics, etc. Percentage reduction in total residential and commercial coincident peak demand ranges from 16.2 percent for Sierra Pacific Power to 30.6 percent for Public Service New Hampshire.

    Results indicate that more than 10 percent of the 200 utility applications are close enough to break-even that more targeted strategies are appropriate. More than one-third of the utility applications reveal benefit cost ratios less than 1.5, suggesting careful development of smart grid strategies to ensure that economic benefits exceed costs. Detailed customer analysis shows, however, that all utilities can significantly improve returns on smart grid investments by targeting individual market segments with specific smart grid strategies.

    Insights provided by "bottom-up" utility customer end-use hourly load data like that applied in this study will be an essential component in development and evaluation of smart grid deployment at individual utilities.

    Smart Grids

    Smart grids reflect the integration of state-of-the-art communication and control technologies applied to every aspect of the generation, transmission, distribution of electricity including remote and onsite control by utilities and utility customers of equipment in homes, commercial, institutional and government buildings and industrial processes. In its most comprehensive application, smart grid applications allow utility customers to both reduce and shift equipment electricity use to off-peak periods depending on price signals provided by the utility and as a result of customer commitments to "sell" electric loads back to the utility system.

    The smart grid concept also includes traditional load control programs used by many utilities to cycle water heating and air conditioning equipment during peak demand periods. Results of several dozen utility experiments show that a combination of equipment control and price feedback technologies often doubles the impacts of load controls. Most residential and commercial programs consist of a relatively small number of participants, relative to utility populations, making it difficult to apply elasticities estimated from these programs in other utility service areas and states.

    The regulated nature of the utility industry (distribution utilities are still regulated in competitive states) requires that estimated costs and benefits of smart grid programs be quantified in advance to justify rate increases required to cover the cost of implementing these systems. These evaluations are important as comprehensive smart grid technology implementation could potentially top $70 billion.

    Smart Grid Analysis Methodology

    The objective of the current study is to identify maximum potential peak load reductions that can be achieved for both residential and commercial utility customers on a sustained basis during peak seasons. The results of this study should be viewed as a potential that can be achieved with smart grid technologies rather than a forecast based on an assumed penetration of smart grid technology applications.

    Residential customers in summer peaking utilities typically contribute most heavily to peak periods in late afternoon when occupants return home, turn up air conditioners, turn on appliances including TVs and stoves and ovens. Dwelling units with electric water heating contribute to peak electricity demand with sink/faucet use and with tub/shower uses. Electric clothes dryer and washing cycles (when accompanied by electric water heating) can also contribute to residential electricity use in peak periods.

    Smart grid technologies can provide traditional load control functions, cycling air conditioning, water heating and swimming pool pumps, while more advanced options provide individual equipment control to these and additional end uses through programmable devices accessible by both the utility and the utility customer. These technologies permit households to respond to a price signal to lower thermostat setting and schedule major electric appliances. Our analysis applies load controls and scheduling of major electric appliances in households to smooth out loads from these end uses during peak periods.

    Customer behavior is also enabled with smart grid technologies either through programmed responses or simply as a response to information on real-time prices. Related behavior includes reduction of summer thermostat settings, use of cold water in washing and air drying for clothes, use of microwave rather than stovetop burners, reduced shower/tub water temperatures, turning off lights and unwatched TVs and other actions. A variety of studies indicate that the behavioral responses are approximately equal to behavioral load shape reductions achieved with load control and scheduling activities. This approach effectively distinguishes between different customer behavioral responses as a function of electric appliance holdings with smaller behavioral impacts for dwelling units with natural gas water heating, cooking, and so on.

    The fact that smart grid impacts are achieved at the individual customer level means that smart grid impact analysis can be provided for any customer dimension or combinations of customer dimensions in our databases. For instance, results can be presented by income, dwelling unit type and size, demographic characteristics, business type and size and other factors. This information can be important in developing smart grid strategies and evaluating smart grid program achievements.

    Compared to residential customers, commercial, institutional and government utility customers reflect considerably less potential for smart grid peak demand savings. Increased summer thermostat settings and pre-cooling provide the greatest demand reduction opportunity. Additional savings can be achieved by turning lights off or through lighting adjustments accomplished with energy management and control systems. Some reduction can be achieved with office equipment shutdown, limitations on elevator use and other behavioral responses.

    This analysis applies a cycling load control strategy to commercial, institutional and government air conditioning systems to smooth out loads and a reduction of 15 percent to reflect increased thermostat settings and some pre-cooling. This estimate is consistent with the limited information on commercial customer pre-cooling and a change in building thermostat setting to 80 degrees. A 10 percent reduction in lighting and other loads is assumed. Reduced waste heat from the 10 percent reduction also cycles back as an additional reduction in air conditioning loads of approximately five percent.

    Commercial buildings with energy management and control systems (ECMS) have considerably more demand management potential than described above; however, since these systems are still in relatively limited use and reflect a considerable investment to install in existing buildings, the impact of smart grid EMCS interactions is not addressed in this study.

    Utility Benefits and Costs

    One objective of this study was to determine the economic feasibility of instituting comprehensive smart grid initiatives at the customer level, that is, deploying advanced smart grid technologies to all utility customers. Benefits are calculated as avoided costs of new generation, transmission and distribution. This analysis used the most recent Department of Energy combustion plant cost of $670/kW. The same figures for transmission and distribution avoided costs used in the Rand study were applied here ($125/kW and $250/kW respectively) for total avoided cost benefits of $1045/kW. While $250/kW is likely to be a reasonable average cost of distribution across the U.S. (though the cost estimates are now somewhat low since the data were developed a decade ago), distribution costs vary widely across utilities. For instance, the distribution cost for Con Edison from the original study is more than $1,500/kW. Consequently, the average $250/kW is applied here to all utilities to reflect average utility costs. Since costs vary around all of these averages for individual utilities, only the total cost results are reported here.

    Costs of comprehensive meter programs are assumed to be $500 for each residential and small commercial customer, $5,000 for medium commercial customers (between 20 and 200 peak kW) and $20,000 for large commercial customers. The benefit-cost results change only slightly when medium and large commercial customer costs are modified reflecting the fact that medium and large commercial customers are not more than several percent of total residential and commercial customers in most utilities. These costs include utility costs of developing the infrastructure required to support real time pricing, load control and other programs along with equipment and installation costs.

    Utility analysis shows that nearly all utilities will save enough in avoided costs with a comprehensive smart grid deployment to at least cover smart grid development and deployment costs; however, many utilities barely break even. For example, about 10 percent of utilities achieve benefit/cost ratios less than 1.2 and should be considered at risk of incurring costs that are greater than benefits given uncertainties concerning actual deployment costs. More than one-third reflect benefit cost ratios less than 1.5. Customer-detailed analysis shows, however, that all utilities can significantly improve returns on smart grid investments by targeting individual market segments with specific technologies.

    Strategies to Support Utility Smart Grid Program Development and Evaluation

    This study illustrates the intuitive and straightforward application of end-use (air conditioning, water heating, etc.) utility customer hourly load databases to evaluate smart grid program development.

    Utility customer database detail supports direct representations of actual load control and smart grid technologies to individual end-use hourly loads providing a true bottom up approach to program development and evaluation. The alternative is to apply elasticities to customer class hourly loads and load profiles to drive a top-down aggregate representation; however, this approach provides little insight on program development and evaluation issues and is of questionable accuracy when applied in individual utility applications.

    This study illustrates the process of evaluating costs and benefits of smart grid initiatives. In addition to applying customer and end-use detailed representative hourly load databases, information on generation, transmission and distribution avoided costs, technology costs relevant for the utility size and deployment and utility infrastructure support costs must be developed. These data vary significantly by utility and even by geographic location within the utility service area.

    By focusing on end-use hourly electricity use within individual utility customer buildings, the utility customer database approach provides a consistent accounting of impacts of specific technologies and their impacts at the customer, customer segment, customer class and utility level. This information provides a basis for developing a resource planning strategy for utility smart grid deployment that insures economic benefits will exceed program costs.

    Utility Customer Database information can be used to forecast benefits and costs over time using penetration assumptions and forecast utility customer growth. All standard economic cost tests (Participant Test, Ratepayer Impact Measure Test, Utility Cost Test, Total Resource Cost Test and Society Cost Test) can be applied to the results of a Utility Customer Hourly Load based analysis.

    This framework also permits extensive scenario analysis, risk analysis and customer segment evaluations where segments can be defined by any variable in the database (income, business type, etc.).

    Finally, a Utility Customer Hourly Database analysis framework provides an easily maintained system that can be used continuously to evaluate ongoing smart grid activities and to adjust strategies to maximize utility smart grid benefits.

    References

    Baer, Walter S., Fulton, Brent . Mahnovski, Sergej, "Estimating the Benefits of the GridWise Initiative," Phaase I Report, Rand Science and Technology Technical Report Prepared for the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, May, 2004

    Faruqui, Ahmad and Sanem Sergici, "Household response to dynamic pricing of electricity: A survey of the experimental evidence," January 10, 2009.

    Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, "A National Assessment of Demand Response Potential," June, 2009.

    For information on purchasing reprints of this article, contact Tim Tobeck ttobeck@energycentral.com.
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    Bob Amorosi
    7.8.09
    This is a great article in that the studies are proving that total reductions in peak demand and energy consumption are very dependent on the nature of the customers and the specific utility company and its regional characteristics. But there is a much bigger message in the article.

    "Utility analysis shows that nearly all utilities will save enough in avoided costs with a comprehensive smart grid deployment to at least cover smart grid development and deployment costs; however, many utilities barely break even."

    This implies the financial benefits to utilities are its "avoided costs" (of building new generation and transmission) . The question it begs is will the utility industry make the investments in smart grid based largely on avoided costs alone, and will they do it a timely manner or over many years.

    Under the current regulatory environment, the utilities' avoided costs would not normally be a problem if they had to incur them without investing in smart grid. This is because any new generation and transmission investment to handle growth in peak demand and total energy consumption is historically always recovered by customer rate increases approved by regulators. So, where is the incentive for utility companies to make smart grid investments on a huge scale?

    I submit that regulatory reform is necessary to provide more immediate financial incentives for utilities to invest in smart grid, otherwise I predict smart grid will be deployed over an excruciatingly very long time to get implemented to every customer. Adding extra charges to customers' bills to explicitly pay for smart grid as envisioned by many as a way to fund it won’t be very palatable with customers if those charges become excessive relative to an average utility bill. There would be huge political opposition to massive charges added to everyone’s bills.

    Utility companies need regulatory reform to allow them to raise new money in other ways to fund smart grid - like for example selling new customer data / communications services and customer premise equipment for smart grid, much like our Cable-TV and telephone industry companies have been doing for decades selling option communication services and boxes that consumers use. Utility companies traditionally want and have had no involvement with customers behind their billing meters on customer premises, but it is time for regulators and policymakers to wake up and get them more involved.

    Bob Amorosi, M.Eng. Resident of Ontario Canada

    Len Gould
    7.9.09
    Excellent article.

    First, I heartily concur with Bob's comment above regarding the skewing of evaluation resulting from typical regulation.

    "The regulated nature of the utility industry (distribution utilities are still regulated in competitive states) requires that estimated costs and benefits of smart grid programs be quantified in advance to justify rate increases required to cover the cost of implementing these systems." -- This quote from the article stuck with me. It points toward the solution but doesn't state it. (The solution of couse is to r-do the regulatory framework first and fast. The industry and regulators have already dawdled too long while technology has bypassed them.)

    Another point which is clear from the article is that even in utilities where the new techniques are least beneficial, they can at minimum repay themselves within a poorly designed regulatory framework. Open things up for some real honest competition (see my IMUC articles this site), and the savings would greatly improve.

    Len Gould
    7.9.09
    (Sorry, that was meant to be "my IMEUC articles". Fuzzy fingers this morning.)

    Independent Market for Every Utility Customer - Preliminary Business Case

    Independent Market for Every Utility Customer - Part 2 - Market Operation

    Independent Market for Every Utility Customer - Part 3 - Alternative Market Operation

    Energy Central Blogs - IMEUC - Independent Market for Every Utility Customer

    Dick Maclay
    7.14.09
    The objective of the study was to "identify maximum potential peak load reductions." Realizing the maximum impacts of any undertaking is rare. It would be interesting to see an extension of such a study to address how much is reasonable to expect in various time frames.

    The article suggests the benefits of a smart grid will be realized by price responsiveness of utility customers. But we are aware that regulators from Ontario to California are adamantly opposed to allowing sufficient price differences to really motivate responses. Instead, they want to use command and control measures. Since command and control has been found to be far less effective than markets in every comparison we can find, that leaves us with an expectation that well under half of the maximum potential can be realized by the regulatory regime. Which the article makes clear leaves the smart grid unable to recoup its costs, let alone provide net benefits.

    It does seem to follow that unless regulators do learn to be real marketers (and of course the expectation is based on an oxymoron), it will require moving regulators out of the way to make the smart grid worth while.

    Bob Amorosi
    7.15.09
    Dick,

    Right on, regulatory reform, or "moving regulators out of the way", is the only hope in my humble opinion for smart grid technologies to realize their full potential and full benefits envisioned. Anything less and we will merely end up seeing government handlouts frittered away on smart grid initiatives that accoomplish half or less of what it is capable of doing.

    Don Hirschberg
    7.16.09
    Maybe someone will help me out. I can’t get past the very first sentence. How does one save a watt?

    “Analysis of comprehensive smart grid technology applications at 200 of the largest U.S. utilities shows potential smart grid savings of 115,145 Megawatts (MW)…”

    Jeff Presley
    7.24.09
    Don, we first need to learn about magnitudes. For instance this article on Wikipedia has some nice facts and scales including some the author of this article should double-check. What he meant to say perhaps is the new magic grid could save 115 Gigawatts (per year)?

    In terms of saved "watts" I've always been curious whether a customer would examine their meter if it were in the home and change their behavior accordingly. Interestingly I know of another device (the automobile) that has similar functionality already. Most modern vehicles have instantaneous mileage indicators, which any prudent driver could observe and change their lead footedness immediately. However my personal observation (albeit in relatively small samples of only tens of thousands of observed drivers) is that virtually NO ONE eases up on the gas just because they are only getting 15 miles per gallon (or less) as they zoom around the road.

    Perhaps if the meter were to show them how much they were spending per mile since many drivers are probably too busy text messaging and talking on their cellphones while eating and applying makeup to do the math? Even as gas approached $5 per gallon I noticed no one taking it easy on the road, but then again during the rolling blackouts in California I personally observed no one shutting off their lights either. I even walked by a CLOSED furniture store at 11:00 P.M. with EVERY light on not two blocks from my hotel, which itself was a victim of a rolling blackout, apparently caused by merchants wanting to (literally) highlight their goods with that wonderful electricity, costs be damned.

    Many posting here seem to believe that consumers will radically adjust their consumption behavior just because they'll know how much they are spending on a daily basis instead of having to wait a month to find out, but I rather doubt it. And given the overall intelligence demonstrated by many of them, if the steps to do anything about their power are any more complicated than setting the clock on their VCR's, well we know that 90% of VCR's never got their clocks set and the only reason they're not still blinking is they've been replaced by DVD players, which don't care about the time.

    In summary I'd contend that a smart grid is an immediate possibility but unfortunately a smart consumer is not.

    Don Hirschberg
    7.24.09
    Jeff:

    Watts, kilowatts or gigawatts, etc. are all measures of POWER, analogous to horsepower or BTUs/minute, etc. Saving a watt makes no sense.

    What can be “saved” by not being used is ENERGY, as in kilowatt-hours, calories, foot-pounds, horsepower- hours, etc. It’s what your meter keeps track of and you pay for. Use 1 watt for a 1000 hours, low power. 1000 watts for 1 hour, high power. Both represent the same energy, one kwh, about a dime’s worth.

    Don Hirschberg
    7.25.09
    This story has been on EnergyPlus at least for the select few since 7/8/09, I got it much later. Yet no one has taken notice or commented on the misuse of calling watts a measure of energy. This calls into question whether any of the posters even read or understood the article. I gave you all a chance with my 7/16 posting. How embarassing.

    Jeff Presley
    7.25.09
    Sorry Don, I was too busy being cute. Notice that I added the (per year) part, which means I've thought of the hours portion of your kwh example. As it is, you'll note there wasn't much traffic here anyway so the discussions seem to be going on elsewhere.

    Len Gould
    7.26.09
    Don and Jeff: Most readers on this site are tolerant enough to not care if the author leaves out the added words "the construction of" from the sentence "potential smart grid savings of ^ 115,145 Megawatts (MW)", as I'm sure you are both aware. Having some fun are you?

    Don Hirschberg
    7.26.09
    Actually Len I didn't understand the sentence. It was defective. I asked for help on 7/16 and none was forthcoming. Not from the author, not from any poster. It had absolutely nothing to do with "tolerance" or "having fun." For those who might think so I apologize.

    Jack Ellis
    7.27.09
    The studies are interesting for what they are. I agree with Bob and Len that regulators are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. If the goal is affordability, then we're wasting time trying to encourage conservation, efficiency and demand management. If the goals is to reduce fossil fuel usage, then affordability has to take a back seat.

    Demand management (aka demand response, demand-side management and load management), energy efficiency and conservation are not new concepts. Three decades of largely failed attempts to influence customer behavior have disproved all of the alternatives to the one measure that might work, which is price. When customers are faced with dollar an hour costs to air condition their homes on a hot day, perhaps they'll begin to think seriously about whole house fans, proper attic ventilation, cool roofs, thermal storage, high efficiency air conditioners, and other alternatives that are yet to be invented. By the way, some of them require investment but none of them require lifestyle alterations or discomfort. So long as electricity is as cheap as it is today (even in California), customers will be content to buy through.

    Jack Ellis
    7.27.09
    Oh yes, Smart Grids might be a smart investment, but this is a matter for customers to decide rather than utilities, their regulators and their vendors.

    Jerry Jackson
    7.28.09
    I haven't checked this site for a while, so I missed the running commentary on "how does one save a Watt?" - so let me respond now.

    Of course a Watt is a measure of power and is, by definition, equal to one joule of energy per second. I stated in the article: "The objective of the current study is to identify maximum potential peak load reductions" which is the primary cost saving impact at the utility customer site. Savings in peak loads are measured as Watts, KiloWatts, MegaWatts, GigaWatts, etc.

    Nearly all discussions of smart grid savings focus only on peak demand savings and do not address energy savings (which are measured in KiloWatt hours, MegaWatt hours, etcl) because unless the energy savings occur in peak hours, there are no savings in generation, transmission and distribution capacity costs.

    I should have said "potential smart grid savings of 115,145 Megawatts (MW) of peak demand" to make it clear that the study focused on peak demand impacts not energy impacts.

    Hope this resolves the misunderstanding.

    Jerry Jackson

    Alok Misra
    7.30.09
    There appears to be no alternative to smart grid. This concept incidently was first conceived by us in India in association with South African Engineers and a group in Banglore. There were no takers but some aspect of this project were taken up in 2003 and lot of customers put on GSM based metering.. Now the results are out not on the time of the day metering but on Electricity theft. Analytical tools since then developed has had a 80% hit in capturing those that temper the meter. The results are so encouraging that now a smart grid project of giant dimensions is being conceived for the first time in Asia to be implemented on Indian soil,This happens to be probably the most ambitious project anywhere. Considering that India has lost more than 20 billion due to theft and ineffecienct use of energy since 1992, nothing that we plan now is required to be justified. I believe those that are debating the issue are grossly ill -informed.

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